Hope & Glory : An Oral History Of A Plymouth Family Before And After The Second World War. A Granddaughter Remembers Her Grandfather.
Granddad bought the house at Pomphlett in nineteen twenty five when he came out of the navy. The house was on the road to Oreston as you left Plymouth going past the Morley Arms. To buy the place he forfeited some of his navy pension, and he paid another one hundred pounds for the land at the back which backed on to the railway. On the other side was a field in which Farmer Giles grew his corn. Towards the end of summer you could see the farm hands harvesting the crop.
At the top of the garden there was a series of out houses where Granddad kept all his tools, which was also a woodworking shop. Another outhouse was used as a dry store, where he kept his seeds. Then there was the chicken runs. We had always to search for the eggs the chickens produced. Sometimes they would be in the boxes where the hens should have gone and laid them, other times you would find them under a bush - but we never bought an egg, along with all the chickens we ever wanted.
Granddad would hatch his own chicks. He would put the eggs under the hens, and let the birds hatch them. I can see him now coming down the garden with this great box of chicks. They would be put in the fireplace over night, so they would not get cold and die up in the hen houses where they were kept during the day. This was only until they were big enough to be able to fend for themselves.
At one point he also had ducks, but did not keep them very long because there was no pond. There were also a few geese as well. I can remember saying to him: ' what are you going to do with those fledglings Granddad?.' He said: ' I'm going to rear them for Christmas.' However, come Christmas he couldn't do it. He could not slit their throats. He came down the garden and Gran said: 'well have you done it?' Granddad replied: 'I can't do it.' So those geese ended up dying of natural causes.
He also had a boat which he kept in Pomphlett Creek. He called the boat 'Boy George' after his son who had been prisoner of war. It was in this boat that he moved the family out to Pomphlett from Coxside. He just put all the furniture in to the boat and off he went. With this boat he would go out and fish for mackerel, which he would bring home and we would all eat.
One year, I don’t know which, there was a glut of sardines in Pomphlett Creek. The mackerel were after them, and they pushed them up as far up the creek as they could go. Granddad said you could go over to the Creek with a bucket. Put the bucket in the water, and you would end up with a bucket full of sardines. Gran would cook them in the great frying pan. Mum said that that year the sardines were exceedingly beautiful.
The fact is Granddad was a very physical man, and he led an active life. In the navy he had been a stoker. He had signed up with the navy when he was seventeen in eighteen ninety six. He may have been younger because he had lied about his age, and he had only just come out when he bought the house with his navy pension. He had done full service. He renewed all the windows at Pomphlett. He also worked on building site, and would cycle back and forth from Noss Mayo when they were building out there.
He was very good with his hands. What he didn’t know about woodwork, gardening, the rearing of fowls. He made swings and a big see-saw for us. They were set up in the garden. He carved the swing out the wood and put the ropes up. On Christmas he made me a dolls house. You should have seen it. It was beautiful. The back opened and there were four rooms in it. Granddad made all the little furniture, and even fitted a bell that rang when you pushed it. It was unbelievable what he made honestly.
In those days we were self sufficient because of the garden. We would sit out in the garden of a summer night, and you could smell all the night stock. Granddad had beautiful peonies with red flowers, and there roses around the red front door. There were also violets. You would come to the door of the kitchen, and on one side would be all fruit trees and bushes: gooseberries, blackberries, loganberries, strawberries. While on the other side was potatoes, peas, turnips, cauliflowers, sprouts. You name it, it was there. The runner beans ran up the side of the chicken runs.
Gran would bottle everything in sight. All different sorts of things. She would pickle things, persevere things. All of this was kept in a big cupboard where she also kept all the crockery. This cupboard would be full of everything that came out of the garden. She even made beetroot wine, which was very much like port, and they would all end up getting very drunk on the stuff. She was a very good cook. Its from her that my Mother and Auntie Win learnt everything. Gran would cook a lot of offal, liver and tripe. Granddad liked his tripe and onions.
During the second world war Granddad would carry out fire watch duty at Pomphlett Mill. He would always be out in the air raids, and we would be in the shelter. Gran liked us altogether so she knew where everybody was during the raids. The shelter was at the back corner of the garden. Granddad had built it himself. But this night the Germans had been dropping incendiary bombs, and some had fallen right on to the house. He looked up and thought: ‘oh my god, the house is on fire!’ You could see the top of the house from the mill. He told his colleagues: ‘I got to go. Bye, Goodnight.’ They turned around and said: ‘oi! Come back here. You can’t leave your post.’ ‘Yes I can,’ he said, ‘my bloody house is on fire!’
That raid destroyed most of the top floor of the house, along with the bed rooms. We ended up having to move out to the out houses at the back of the garden for a couple of months until the house was repaired. Luckily, the down stairs of the house was still very useable. The kitchen was still in operation, and the living room was alright. Granddad still had his bedroom.
The bombing raids could be horrific. During a raid on Oreston Granddad lost his eldest sister, a niece, and a niece by marriage, who was expecting her first baby. We were all stood out front when the funeral cars went past Pomphlett. I can remember that to this day. Gran and Granddad went to the funeral. I think the Germans mistook what they were supposed to bomb that night. It was one of the worst raids I have been through.
Even though I was only a tacker I can remember sitting in that shelter with the noise of bombs coming down. We were all in there. One night Auntie Win had hold of the door handle, and she fell asleep against the door. There was a slight clicking sound as the handle turned, and the door shot suddenly open. Win tipped over in the chair, out the door, and she literally rolled down the side of the path. Auntie Phil went in to hysterics. Everybody was crying with laughter. Auntie Win was not hurt though. All of this and German bombs falling from the sky.
There’s a strong navy connection running through the family. Great Granddad was at the Boxer Rebellion in the first year of the twentieth century. Granddad, my Dad, and Uncle George were stokers. In fact, Dad was on The Duke Of York when she put down the Scharnhorst. As well as being in Tokyo harbour for the signing of the treaty with the Japanese. George was at the battle of Crete, and it was during this that the ship he was on was sunk.
George must have been lucky after his ship was sunk. He managed to get a shore on Crete with a shipmate, and they were both picked up by the greek resistance. Who took them up in to the hills and hid them. From what I know they spent six weeks on the run from the germens, and the resistance were making arrangements for the pair of them to be taken back to Africa by sea: Egypt most likely. Only one night they were hiding in a cave thinking it was safe to leave, only to walk out of the cave straight in to the arms of a German patrol, and became prisoners of war. Family rumours had it that the pilot who was going to get them out of Crete was also captured - and then shot by the Germans.
Gran through this period thought he was gone, due to the fact that he had been missing for two months or so. Then to her relief she had a letter from the M.O.D to say he was a prisoner of war. He had been moved from Crete to Germany. Then the letters began arriving from George via the Red Cross. This was when all the knitting started: socks, sweaters. He said in a letter he did not have a pair of shoes. We knew what size he took. So all the coupons went on a pair of shoes for him, and we sent it all out in a box. I think he was very grateful for this considering.
Gran through this period thought he was gone, due to the fact that he had been missing for two months or so. Then to her relief she had a letter from the M.O.D to say he was a prisoner of war. He had been moved from Crete to Germany. Then the letters began arriving from George via the Red Cross. This was when all the knitting started: socks, sweaters. He said in a letter he did not have a pair of shoes. We knew what size he took. So all the coupons went on a pair of shoes for him, and we sent it all out in a box. I think he was very grateful for this considering.
When the war ended he was repatriated, but when he came home he had T.B. We think he caught in the P.O.W camp. I don’t where else he could have got it from. Because it was so bad the doctors sent him to the sanatorium at Newton Abbot, Hawksmoor. There they took one of his lungs away. I remember going to see him when he was at the sanatorium, but I was never allowed inside. George would come out onto the balcony, and I would talk to him from the grass. In the end they sent him home to Pomphlett. The prognosis was not good.
I can remember the last time I saw him. I was about seven then. We were all at Pomphlett for tea, and we were going home. Granddad said: ‘you had better go up stairs and say good bye to Uncle George.’ When I went up he was in bed coughing up blood. I can see him there now coughing. So I just said good night to him and slipped out of the room. He died that night. He was a nice looking boy, with dark curly hair. When he died he was only twenty seven years old. The T.B took him. Gran didn’t last long after that. She died in nineteen fifty from a heart problem, and may be the loss of her son.
Gran was a very gentle patient person. She would never swear. For Gran things were either right or wrong, and she was a very moral person. She was Irish, and a Roman Catholic until she married Granddad, when she came over to the Church of England. Sometimes with Granddad she would die upwards. He would come home from the Morley Arms on a Saturday night, and sometimes bring a package home with him. He would say: 'have a look at this Annie?' The package was a great big roll of pork. 'Where did you get that from?' She would say. 'From the black market,' Granddad replied. 'What! You can't do that,' she said. 'Yes I can,' said Granddad it'll feed the family for dinner.' She found it hard to understand that at the time you had to take what you could get.
One Christmas we had a beautiful food parcel from America. It was very good of them. Gran's family went to America. They went to Massachusetts or Chicago, and Gran kept in touch with her niece. She had married an American widower with six children. She never had children of her own, and letters from her would come across the Atlantic. But of this parcel all I can remember is that they sent tins of peaches, and that the family drooled all over them. There were tins of this that and the other. A big letter of thank you was sent back over the Atlantic. The parcel must have cost a fortune to send.
After the war was over. When I was about five years old. Gran would say to me if she was in the kitchen: 'go and fetch the bread for me.' And so I would run to the front door to fetch the bread. The Co-Op delivered the bread with a horse and cart and Mr Baker would come across the road as I was opening the door. In through the gateway and up the steps. He would say to me: 'poop ta shit fart,' and I would be laughing at this. My Gran would shout from the kitchen: 'Mr Baker are you swearing at my Granddaughter?' He was a lovely man. At the time he must have been sixty three or four. Coming up for retirement. I can see him on those steps as plain as day, but of course, as I've already said Gran died in nineteen fifty.
All Regardless of the events of the second world war it was a happy childhood. We would go down to Pomphlett Creek swimming, which is something you can't do now. It was also where Mum learnt to swim when they were small. All they had to do was cross the road, up around by the mill, then turn right, and they were in the creek. They would swim over there everyday during the holidays. What more could you have? I would hang from trees in in the orchard.gone now, of course.
My Granddad Rockey, my fathers dad, was very friendly with Granddad Rogers. He was a dear old boy. We would call him Grandsur. He would come out to Pomphlett and smoke their pipes together in the outhouses. One of them came up with the idea of planting tobacco, and they ended up growing the plant in two of the chicken runs. When the tobacco was ready they gathered it all in, and hung it up in one of the outhouses to dry. I had never seen so much tobacco in all of my life. And when they were all up there smoking it you could see all the smoke coming out of the door of the outhouse. After that year though they never grew any more. Due to the fact that some chin-wag told them it was illegal to grow due to the tax payable on it. And this wasn't the only daftness that they would get up to, especially over the Christmas.
During Christmas Eve, Mum and Auntie Phil, would have a few bottles of VP Sherry between them, because they would prepare all the chickens for Christmas dinner, and make the stuffing. On this day Granddad killed the chickens and we all had to be there for this, because they had to be plucked and drawn, and cleaned out. But the both of them would be drinking this VP Sherry as the day went on and they would get very wonky on their feet. One Christmas Auntie Phil said: 'I've gotta go up stairs and get a table cloth.' And she disappeared for about two hours, before Mum went looking for her. Auntie Phil was found asleep on the bed holding on to the table cloth.
Boxing day was always a big family day. The big table would be got rid of, and the chairs would be put along the walls. The gramophone would be going, and they'd all be dancing. For Christmas Granddad would order two large oak kegs from Jack Lang, the landlord of the Morley Arms. Granddad would tap the pair of them. There must have been eighty pints in those barrels. They would only last until the end of boxing day. It was a great party.
All sorts would be played on that gramophone. One day I played Granddad Bill Haley's 'Rock Around The Clock.' He disliked it so much he called it 'rack'n'roll.' He was very much more in to his theatre and music hall. Down at The Palace on Union Street he saw Laurel & Hardy's final performance. Even more though he liked music hall songs: Marie Lloyd, Harry Champion, and George Formby Snr. He must have seen them all down there. When I was fifteen he took me to Argyle for the first time, but I can't remember the match. He would also go to Oreston Rovers. He was involved with them. He would put them through their training. Even though it was only a hobby for him, other then supporting the bar at the Morley Arms.
In his latter years in the mid-fifties when he was seventy six - Granddad died when he was eighty four in nineteen sixty two - he started buying the Daily Worker. This may well have stemmed from the time when he had been in Archangel during the First World War. He had seen the appalling conditions the ordinary Russians were living in. I don't think he was a hard core communist. Its just the case of someone who takes up that sort of thing, at that time of life, makes you wonder.
I was about seventeen in nineteen fifty five. I went out to see him at the house. It was also the day Uncle Ern came around. He had been a sergeant in the army during the First World War. I knew him very well. He was a gentleman. During the First World War he won the D.S.M, for bringing in a wounded officer from between the lines under heavy fire, and he was a conservative. One would be sat at each end of the big table in the living room, and they'd spend the afternoon arguing about politics. It was like watching a game of tennis.
But this afternoon as I approached the house along the main road. I could see pined above the front door the hammer and sickle. I thought: ' oh my god, what's he gone and done now?' When I got to the door and he answered I said bluntly, 'you've got that flag up!' He replied: 'Well! There's nothing wrong in that. It's a free country. I can put what bloody flag up I like.' 'But you were always so loyal,' I returned.
He had been conservative right up until then. In a photograph I have you can see George V's sliver jubilee celebrations going on. You can see above the door the union jack, and the G.R. With all the red, white, blue, bunting which had been put up for the celebrations. How ever, I can still not understand where all of this came from. After all none of the other members of the family were radical.
Granddad calmed down a bit after the flag episode. I don't think losing Pomphlett Cottages helped him. They pulled the place down when they widened the road, because of the building of Plymstock in to a Plymouth suburb. Why that was ever done I will never know. Mr Beeching came along and shut all the railway lines down. Today they would have been wonderful to use. You could have got on the train and been in the centre of Plymouth within a quarter of an hour. Now look at all these cars on the road, you get traffic jams all the way out to the Iron Bridge and past the Morley.
March 2008.
I was about seventeen in nineteen fifty five. I went out to see him at the house. It was also the day Uncle Ern came around. He had been a sergeant in the army during the First World War. I knew him very well. He was a gentleman. During the First World War he won the D.S.M, for bringing in a wounded officer from between the lines under heavy fire, and he was a conservative. One would be sat at each end of the big table in the living room, and they'd spend the afternoon arguing about politics. It was like watching a game of tennis.
But this afternoon as I approached the house along the main road. I could see pined above the front door the hammer and sickle. I thought: ' oh my god, what's he gone and done now?' When I got to the door and he answered I said bluntly, 'you've got that flag up!' He replied: 'Well! There's nothing wrong in that. It's a free country. I can put what bloody flag up I like.' 'But you were always so loyal,' I returned.
He had been conservative right up until then. In a photograph I have you can see George V's sliver jubilee celebrations going on. You can see above the door the union jack, and the G.R. With all the red, white, blue, bunting which had been put up for the celebrations. How ever, I can still not understand where all of this came from. After all none of the other members of the family were radical.
Granddad calmed down a bit after the flag episode. I don't think losing Pomphlett Cottages helped him. They pulled the place down when they widened the road, because of the building of Plymstock in to a Plymouth suburb. Why that was ever done I will never know. Mr Beeching came along and shut all the railway lines down. Today they would have been wonderful to use. You could have got on the train and been in the centre of Plymouth within a quarter of an hour. Now look at all these cars on the road, you get traffic jams all the way out to the Iron Bridge and past the Morley.
March 2008.
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